David Icke Banned from Mainland EU Europe

[pierre]

hahaha.
I, am not a robot, robot, I lie. I lie icke.

[Lexi]

David Icke Petition Psyop? / Hugo Talks

[Firestarter]

Icke can still appeal the decision.
I don't see any objective reason for him to be banned from the whole EU, for exercising his freedom of speech. Even if he were an anti-Semitic Holocaust denier...

Icke's "petition" looks like part of the appeal (bezwaar) to the Dutch government's decision to have him banned from all "Schengen" countries in the EU.
The "petition" in itself is another attempt to get publicity. How much free publicity did Icke get over this ban?

I still haven't heard anything about the actual appeal, which seems like another win-win situation for the publicity-hungry Icke.
If he wins (which I don't expect), he can cry victory, if he loses it can be followed by court procedings... with more publicity (which ultimately leads to more fans).

[Born_Free]

I don't get this Icke hate recently. I totally get the upset and suspicion given the whole Icke forum bans and recent history with the forum, and would agree that something is 'off' with the whole forum and the choice of 'mods' over there.

But all this Icke bashing seems a bit strange. I don't know a single living soul who has 'helped' more people to 'awaken' to the conspiracy than Icke. He also talks not just with facts and an incredible ability to recall facts and dates, but he also talks with much humility and love. He could be 'controlled opposition' of course, I guess anyone can, but as Max often says, we need to come together and unite where we can. Ultimately, if Icke is controlled opposition he has STILL helped more people to wake up than anyone else I know. If he is playing his 'part' and his role is to 'lay out the plans' then so be it. Either way it seems he has been 'chosen' to share information about the plans and the conspiracy, and we need many more of him if we are going to 'win this'.

[Chi Chi]

I don't get this Icke hate recently. I totally get the upset and suspicion given the whole Icke forum bans and recent history with the forum, and would agree that something is 'off' with the whole forum and the choice of 'mods' over there.

But all this Icke bashing seems a bit strange. I don't know a single living soul who has 'helped' more people to 'awaken' to the conspiracy than Icke. He also talks not just with facts and an incredible ability to recall facts and dates, but he also talks with much humility and love. He could be 'controlled opposition' of course, I guess anyone can, but as Max often says, we need to come together and unite where we can. Ultimately, if Icke is controlled opposition he has STILL helped more people to wake up than anyone else I know. If he is playing his 'part' and his role is to 'lay out the plans' then so be it. Either way it seems he has been 'chosen' to share information about the plans and the conspiracy, and we need many more of him if we are going to 'win this'.

I agree with you. Something is definitely 'off' on the forum. Especially more recently. No point rehashing it as Lake, Bombatwat and the many sox have a nice firm grip on the control button there. Gradually, the controversial topics are getting banned, even religion which will always be, a choice.

David Icke comes across as true to me. Its just a vibe I get about him. I think his son Gareth loves the fame more so than David Icke ever has. Notice that the sons are the two making the higher income generating platform...and will continue to use it to their advantage long after DI has gone, no doubt.

This recent 'oh dont post this or that' situation 'or the forum will shut down' is rather ominous. Why would a forum based on opinion be at risk because some people have opinions? Surely , free speech is the foundation (or part) of our rights as beings on this planet, earth, crucible (whatever shape it is). No racism....(but who and what defines racism?). The DI forum says No more flat earth,but surely, we as a people have the right to believe or disbelieve whichever theories we wish. Science has been and will always be up for debate based of the relevant 'findings' sold to the people. Most people have no way of flying around independent of instruments in a plane/spaceship or other inter-dimensional rocketship to see for sure whether or not the earth is a sphere, cylindrical or a curved, saucer shaped receptacle beneath a dome - with many potential possibilities. No more NASA/Space discussion, but why not? It seems to me that the official narratives must never be questioned, or you get banned and if you dont get banned then you are threatening the existence of a forum that is supposed to be reflective of a man whose lifelong beliefs have centred around all freedoms.

Odd, very odd. In fact you could safely say that the Nine- Eleven fictitious hijackers have nothing on the moderating hijackers of the DI forum. After all, at least we know the DI forum mods do actually hijack. I would love DI to do a video on the freedoms or lack of, within a forum bearing his name.

[SeeD_Command]

I don't understand why you people are SOOO obsessed with the DI forum and it's moderators. Sounds like you had A LOT of time and energy invested into it and that's why you're so bitter. Maybe think of your banning as a sign to move on to real-life action, instead of posting on a forum all the time arguing over the shape of the Earth, and then bitching on THIS forum about the injustice of it all??

Believe it or not, there are bigger fish to fry then whining about the DI forum and it's dictatorial moderators over the shape of the Earth. I'm sure the greedy attention-seeking 70 year old David Icke and sons are directing it because they have nothing better to do! I would too if I had written 18+ books on evidential history and science only to be questioned by shits who reference youtube videos as sources and only ask stupid-ass questions which are thoroughly explained in the books themselves. And who usually reference instrumental interpretation as the conspiracy itself or outright vagaries as open ended questions.

Say everyone suddenly agreed with you on the shape of the planet and you were miraculously reinstated to David Icke's forum , then what?? WTF difference does that make? We're all still facing the same problems, right? What freedom would we get from admitting the Earth is flat? What is the point of trying to drive this point home? Out of everything I've said here can you at least answer me that?!

[Born_Free]

I don't get this Icke hate recently. I totally get the upset and suspicion given the whole Icke forum bans and recent history with the forum, and would agree that something is 'off' with the whole forum and the choice of 'mods' over there.

But all this Icke bashing seems a bit strange. I don't know a single living soul who has 'helped' more people to 'awaken' to the conspiracy than Icke. He also talks not just with facts and an incredible ability to recall facts and dates, but he also talks with much humility and love. He could be 'controlled opposition' of course, I guess anyone can, but as Max often says, we need to come together and unite where we can. Ultimately, if Icke is controlled opposition he has STILL helped more people to wake up than anyone else I know. If he is playing his 'part' and his role is to 'lay out the plans' then so be it. Either way it seems he has been 'chosen' to share information about the plans and the conspiracy, and we need many more of him if we are going to 'win this'.

I agree with you. Something is definitely 'off' on the forum. Especially more recently. No point rehashing it as Lake, Bombatwat and the many sox have a nice firm grip on the control button there. Gradually, the controversial topics are getting banned, even religion which will always be, a choice.

David Icke comes across as true to me. Its just a vibe I get about him. I think his son Gareth loves the fame more so than David Icke ever has. Notice that the sons are the two making the higher income generating platform...and will continue to use it to their advantage long after DI has gone, no doubt.

This recent 'oh dont post this or that' situation 'or the forum will shut down' is rather ominous. Why would a forum based on opinion be at risk because some people have opinions? Surely , free speech is the foundation (or part) of our rights as beings on this planet, earth, crucible (whatever shape it is). No racism....(but who and what defines racism?). The DI forum says No more flat earth,but surely, we as a people have the right to believe or disbelieve whichever theories we wish. Science has been and will always be up for debate based of the relevant 'findings' sold to the people. Most people have no way of flying around independent of instruments in a plane/spaceship or other inter-dimensional rocketship to see for sure whether or not the earth is a sphere, cylindrical or a curved, saucer shaped receptacle beneath a dome - with many potential possibilities. No more NASA/Space discussion, but why not? It seems to me that the official narratives must never be questioned, or you get banned and if you dont get banned then you are threatening the existence of a forum that is supposed to be reflective of a man whose lifelong beliefs have centred around all freedoms.

Odd, very odd. In fact you could safely say that the Nine- Eleven fictitious hijackers have nothing on the moderating hijackers of the DI forum. After all, at least we know the DI forum mods do actually hijack. I would love DI to do a video on the freedoms or lack of, within a forum bearing his name.

Yes, certainly the Icke forum has changed immeasurably over the years and lost a LOT of incredible regular posters. Saying that, maybe some left because of the 'change' and others left because at some point you have to stop with the information and actually take action in your own life.

I get the same vibe about David and Gareth, and I mean almost exactly the same sense as you. Having gone to see Icke in 2016 in Sydney I certainly did not get any negative vibes from him, quite the opposite. But I don't get the same vibe from Gareth, I get a vibe of a bit of a narc, having a huge ego, and being driven to get rich. I don't get the same vibe about his other son Jaimie though.

On the mods over there, I think only a certain 'personality type' would choose to be a mod, and if you are not that type then you would either not sign up for it, get out pretty quick when you realise something is ' off', which then only leaves you with those ' personality type' above again. So, of course it could be that a certain ' type' is chosen, or the ' good guys' quit. I will add more in response to SeeD's post.

[Born_Free]

I don't understand why you people are SOOO obsessed with the DI forum and it's moderators. Sounds like you had A LOT of time and energy invested into it and that's why you're so bitter. Maybe think of your banning as a sign to move on to real-life action, instead of posting on a forum all the time arguing over the shape of the Earth, and then bitching on THIS forum about the injustice of it all??

Believe it or not, there are bigger fish to fry then whining about the DI forum and it's dictatorial moderators over the shape of the Earth. I'm sure the greedy attention-seeking 70 year old David Icke and sons are directing it because they have nothing better to do! I would too if I had written 18+ books on evidential history and science only to be questioned by shits who reference youtube videos as sources and only ask stupid-ass questions which are thoroughly explained in the books themselves. And who usually reference instrumental interpretation as the conspiracy itself or outright vagaries as open ended questions.

Say everyone suddenly agreed with you on the shape of the planet and you were miraculously reinstated to David Icke's forum , then what?? WTF difference does that make? We're all still facing the same problems, right? What freedom would we get from admitting the Earth is flat? What is the point of trying to drive this point home? Out of everything I've said here can you at least answer me that?!

I honestly don't know much about the history of the ' flat earthers' and what they may have potentially 'gone through'. Perhaps they have faced much ridicule for their stances and that might explain why 'some' of them have a certain theme in how they present their arguments. No doubt from the bits I have seen in debates, the 'flat earthers' appear to have a sort of frustrated and defensive demeanour, which sometimes spills over into outright abusive and ridiculing those who either don't care much what shape this prison is, or those who still believe the globe theory.

I wonder if they are so used to being the 'smart one' who has both placed themselves outside the mainstream, or been placed there by others through their actions and beliefs, that they have become so accustomed to that position they seek out more experiences of the same. Perhaps part of all of us seeking 'truth' and becoming 'Spiritual' is to feel better than others. Maybe those who are ardent FE's no longer feel 'Special' having now been joined by many millions of other 'awake' people that they have found another position and reason to once again feel 'Special' and that they have 'superior knowledge'. I don't know it is just something that I have thought in trying to understand the stance that some seem quick to take and what I have witnessed on the few threads I have come across. It is sad to see, and once again, I don't know what ridicule they may feel they experienced for coming to their conclusion of the FE, maybe it justifies that.

But I certainly agree that what difference does it really make? We are in a prison here, regardless of its shape. Yes, I suppose a prisoner in a maximum security prison might have some advantage knowing the layout of the building, knowing how many guards there are etc. but it would not help that much if that building is on a remote island with no boats or means of overthrowing the level of security. We are basically SIMS characters in a simulation, now if knowing the shape of the simulation is the way out then great, crack on, but I doubt it. I say all this feeling that it is very well likely we ARE on a flat Earth, it would not surprise me if we have been lied to on EVERY level possible. But how much it will help us all escape, I don't believe it will help much at all. Then you have those that believe that if we are on a FE, than that must mean we ARE special and were created for a purpose, I suppose that could be possible. But it is also just as plausible that we have been created as food for entities, and/or AI creates this simulation to pull as many souls into it to grow bigger and bigger.

[Chi Chi]

I don't understand why you people are SOOO obsessed with the DI forum and it's moderators. Sounds like you had A LOT of time and energy invested into it and that's why you're so bitter. Maybe think of your banning as a sign to move on to real-life action, instead of posting on a forum all the time arguing over the shape of the Earth, and then bitching on THIS forum about the injustice of it all??

Believe it or not, there are bigger fish to fry then whining about the DI forum and it's dictatorial moderators over the shape of the Earth. I'm sure the greedy attention-seeking 70 year old David Icke and sons are directing it because they have nothing better to do! I would too if I had written 18+ books on evidential history and science only to be questioned by shits who reference youtube videos as sources and only ask stupid-ass questions which are thoroughly explained in the books themselves. And who usually reference instrumental interpretation as the conspiracy itself or outright vagaries as open ended questions.

Say everyone suddenly agreed with you on the shape of the planet and you were miraculously reinstated to David Icke's forum , then what?? WTF difference does that make? We're all still facing the same problems, right? What freedom would we get from admitting the Earth is flat? What is the point of trying to drive this point home? Out of everything I've said here can you at least answer me that?!

Some of us havent been banned, just see what we see. I also have no clue what shape the world is and nor do I care. However, you are right that there are more fish to fry, and I guess thats what the other threads are about. This one says about DI being banned in EU, so safe to say its on topic to mention Icke here? I figured it was ok as not interested in posting anywhere where our words are censored, for whatever reason.