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Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:08 am
by pierre
maybe, maybe not. I do find his willingness to go up against all sorts, including jews and white nationalists, brave... in the Yes Minister sense, but maybe it is the try a few times, then shake the dust off your feet.

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:43 pm
by Firestarter
pierre wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:08 amI do find his willingness to go up against all sorts, including jews and white nationalists, brave...
I wouldn't call trying to find the truth behind ALL the lies an act of courage, although it is certainly possible that the herd is so easily controlled through stupid propaganda because they are cowards that dream of some sort of hero that will solve their problems, so they can continue their life sleepwalking.

In a way it isn't very different than what neo-Nazis do, while they blame the Jewish cabal for everything that's wrong with our Brave new world (including the Jew-controlled media), I blame the (crypto-Jewish) Carolingian dynasty.
The main difference is that I go beyond the contradictions, while the overwhelming majority of people can believe in stories that contradict themselves (doublethink).

And in my worldview there are no heroic "big leaders" (like some brainwashed fools praise Hitler or Trump), but the only "heroes" are "little people" that nobody knows and do some little acts of disobedience against the tyrants.

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:36 pm
by Firestarter
While the internet has made it much easier to start controlled alternative media and conspiracy theorists, this is nothing new, a strategy literally used for centuries.
One of the "famous" international JFK assassination conspiracy theorists came from the Netherlands, the gay journalist Willem Oltmans.

In short, Oltmans claims that he prevented a Dutch war against Indonesia over New Guinea by sending a memo to US president John F. Kennedy. Then Kennedy ordered the Netherlands to leave Guinea, and was assassinated by the "deep state" (or whatever term you prefer), in which Dutch minister of foreign affairs Joseph Luns was an important figure.
In Oltmans's version, Prince Bernhard, the Dutch royals and the Bilderberg where the "good guys" that needed JFK for the Netherlands to withdraw from New Guinea. Not only was Joseph Luns the evil master in the plot against JFK, he also supposedly targeted poor Oltmans, who was awarded 8 million guilders taxfree by the notoriously corrupt Dutch courts for all of his problems to become rich and famous.

Joseph Luns, like several Dutch royals, was a Knight of Malta, and was of course selected by Queen Juliana (Bernhard's wife) as minister of Foreign affairs. He even repeatedly attended the annual Bilderberg conference, chaired by Bernhard!

Prince Bernhard was also a Rotarian, like Luns' wife.
Prince Bernhard receives world president of the Rotary Club James F. Conway at palace Soestdijk, from left: Mrs. Conway, James Conway, Prince Bernhard and Lia Luns (Joseph's wife), 14 April 1970.

In 1963, Joseph Luns arranged 1 million for his buddy Prince Bernhard of the 275 million DM Germany paid to Nazi victims.
That was despite the fact that Bernhard had not suffered any income loss.

The stories by Oltmans at first seem like the real deal, but when you look closer they fall apart.
In reality Oltmans was close to the Dutch royals, he shared a teacher with former queen Princess Beatrix, G. Büringh Boekhoudt.
Oltmans was part of the group of Paul Rijkens (of Unilever) that was controlled by none other than Bilderberg co-founder Prince Bernhard.
Oltmans was even a long-time friend of the same Hans Teengs Gerritsen that was involved in getting Prince Bernhard millions in bribes from arms companies, including Lockheed and Northrop.

If the Dutch government had really wanted to destroy Oltmans that would have been quite easy...
Willem Oltmans was gay before that was socially accepted. There are even stories that he molested underage boys: ... 6118#p6118

Willem Oltmans was also close to the noble child molesting Schimmelpenninck family that was/is also very close to the Dutch royals: viewtopic.php?t=8421

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:27 pm
by Boadicea

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:04 am
by pierre
Max Igans videos of the crazy dancers as they go into seizure.
the new rotary club.
and we are all in it.

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:36 am
by Firestarter
Firestarter wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:28 pmI must say that Alex Jones timed the release of his book "The Great Reset: And the War for the World" perfectly with the court session broadcast and a huge amount of publicity all over the world.
It has became a top 3 bestseller on the Amazon book chart, reaching the top spot in 3 separate charts.
Maybe possibly Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson for once aren't lying that the New York Times simply removed Alex's best-selling "non-fiction" book “The Great Reset: And the War for the World” from its bestseller list?!?

Alex Jones' books sold 36,036 copies in its first week after publication (Carlson claimed even 20,000 copies more), more than the number 1 listed book, "I’m Glad My Mom Died" by child actress Jennette McCurdy, but it isn't on the NYT best seller list.
Personally I find it hard to believe that Infowars fans can actually read more than a tweet...

The problem is that I have to believe Infowars about the number of copies of the books sold. It could even be that a goofball like Jones used his Gofundme and dick pills cash to manipulate the sales (buying his own book in bulk): ... k-nyt.html

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:34 pm
by Firestarter
Bart Sibrel is a notorious moon hoax prankster, best known for confronting Apollo astronuts and demanding that they swear Bible that they walked on the Moon. Old, tiny Buzz Aldrin made 250 pound Sibrel "famous" by punching him in the face.

Bart Sibrel first film was released in 2001 "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon". In which Sibrel plays the voice over trick with great effect.

The most important from this bull$hit film is footage when the astronuts say something about looking out the window of the rockeship, when the narrator concludes without any argument (let alone evidence) that this "proves" that they created the illusion they were 210,000 km (130,000 miles) from Earth (halfway to the Moon), by filming through a small hole.
Besides that there is no "evidence" that they use this small hole trick, this couldn't even give the impression that they were much farther away from earth (than low orbit): ... o_the_Moon

Bart Sibrel recently realeased another mockumentary, where some hired actor alleges that his father was on the set where the moon landing videos were made. Needless to say, without any evidence whatsoever. That the actor provides evidence that he actually had a father doesn't make this fake "bombshell" credible in any way.

As the actor doesn't give any "insider" information, Sibrel could have coached him to say what he did.

Unfortunately he doesn't even let the actor swear on the Bible: viewtopic.php?p=42161#p42161

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:48 pm
by Boadicea
Was it This?

Project Slam Dunk - MOON LANDING HOAX CONFESSION - Cyrus Eugene Akers

One year to the day after the publication of the revelatory book "Moon Man: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List", which divulges the deathbed confession of the former Chief of Security at Cannon Air Force Base in Clovis New Mexico, who confessed thereon to his participation in the falsification of the first "moon landing", his identity is finally revealed.

This predetermined waiting period was previously negotiated with his sole surviving son, who himself passed away this year.

Cyrus Eugene Akers detailed the information in the book, "Moon Man: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List" including not only the location of the filming of the first fake moon landing at his military base, the dates it was filmed, and the CIA code name for the operation.

He also gave the names of fifteen government scientists and officials who were allowed exclusive observation of this historic government fraud, some of whom are still alive today.

The list was given to Akers by President Lyndon Johnson, who was there at the first day of filming.

Source: Mowac

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 am
by pierre
Jones and The Fetz in MM's world.

Re: Alternative media exposed

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:03 pm
by Firestarter
pierre wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 am
Another fictional story "inspired" by true events.

I've previously posted about THE reason why Alex Jones isn't allowed to "defend" himself (this isn't a violation of his constitutional rights)...
Firestarter wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:44 pmJust like Bannon, Alex Jones basically refused to comply with the court orders (subpoena). As a result Jones lost 4 defamation cases against the families of 10 (supposed) victims of by default. And as a result he can't now suddenly defend himself against the accusations by claiming his right of free speech. You cannot be more stupid than that in a court of law.
I don't know the ins and outs of the Fetzer lawsuits.
I found his book on the JFK assassination good (I can't judge the Sandy Hook book, as I didn't do my own investigation on that): ... =31&t=1634