Not saying it's Aliens .... But it's Dimensional Aliens!

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Re: Not saying it's Aliens .... But it's Dimensional Aliens!

Post by lake »

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Sociovirology as a model of extraterrestrial interaction

"Sociovirology holds that altruistic cooperative behavior is critically dependent on genetic relatedness and kin selection. Assuming Denebian and Giselian probes cooperate, this would mean they are closely related to each other. However, we are more interested in whether the benefit to others is an adaptation, and not just a byproduct of an otherwise selfish trait. Do Denebians cooperate with us to counter Giselians? Do they both cooperate against us?"

"We work for DENIED researching on sociovirology, that is, analyzing viruses cooperation strategies once two different viruses happen to infect the same subject. Our aim is to discover conflict, cooperation, and communication strategies among viruses. Our research is then applied to define defense strategies against Giselians. Nothing to do with biowarfare, you see. What we do is to treat aliens as viruses and Earth as their target. We create models on how aliens could possibly cooperate and communicate during an invasion in order to refine our defense strategy. That's what we do here."

"We know virus-virus interactions are highly diverse. While some viruses need another helper virus to complete their infection cycle, other viruses are either activated or suppressed by the presence of secondary viral infections. In our research Giselians and Denebians are mathematically modeled as viruses and we simulate how a coinfection of Earth would progress."

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"They can run their infection cycle totally ignoring the other virus, or they can supress the competing virus, but there is a more interesting case: the two viruses can coalesce, that is, they can merge into one new virus with increased lethality. DENIED wondered what would happen if DENIED virus happens to infect a person who is already infected by a virus. Would both viruses coalesce? What conditions need be met for that to happen? This creates new research avenues that SV17q called 'sociovirological warfare', the exploitation of viral coinfection to create new viruses with military value""

"we have to think of strategies that disrupt this cooperativity and clustering of extraterrestrial probes"

"We need to understand virus-virus interactions and its social evolution if we wish to to understand and predict how an alien invasion would proceed in the future. Approaching a Denebian probe as a virus, instead of a simple extraterrestrial probe, makes it possible to understand the logic of these exotic systems. It is not that they are viruses, rather it is that they behave as viruses."

"One may consider object DP-2147 as an individual probe. Yet in some cases, we've seen how an orb can carry multiple copies of itself. We know functionally, these copies are similar to multiple orbs entering the target area. This is a classic air space penetration strategy. Therefore, the definition of a Denebian probe should be set at the level of the single attacking orb."

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"A sociovirological perspective on intelligent extraterrestrial life-forms can open new research and defense possibilities. Social thinking cast ETIs in a new light and question fundamental assumptions to advance basic defense strategies. Additionally, focusing on ETI-ETI antagonism and alliances, we may be able to uncover new weapons in our own ETI-Earth battle."

https://forgottenlanguages-full.forgott ... el-of.html
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Re: Not saying it's Aliens .... But it's Dimensional Aliens!

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Quantum End Games

Decision Algorithms Ruling K-civilizations


"Only one observer can truly experience Reality, at the cost of removing all other observers"

"The real observer always causes an unnecessary perturbation of some kind in the phenomena under observation. The higher the number of observers, the stronger the perturbation. Hence, observers maximize the quality of their observation by the expedient of minimizing the number of competing observers. The game turns then into a deadly game in which observers kill themselves until only one observer is left. That's why there is just one God, and not many."

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"According to quantum mechanics, the observer and the system being observed are mysteriously linked so that the results of any observation seem to be determined in part by actual choices made by the observers. However, the higher the number of observers, the greater the perturbations introduced into the observed system and, hence, the higher the uncertainty in the knowledge about the system"

"The observation of a given system is always the observer's subjective response to receiving information from the system. When there are more than one observer what you get is the average response of all observers involved in the observation, and all your knowledge about the system is the average knowledge. In other words, all your knowledge about the Universe is the average knowledge of those observing the Universe, a knowledge that is as close to ignorance as it might get"

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"You know little about the Universe because you are so many!"

"when under observation, electrons are being forced to behave like particles and not like waves. Thus the mere act of observation affects the experimental findings. Thus, too, killing the observer will allow you to recover the original behavior of the electron."

"your soul and those of others become essential objects of your daily life because your survival instinct requires you to search for their deep nature in order to better understand and master them. Face it: you do not study the universe just because you feel curious, rather you do it for survival"

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"If conscious observers are to be included in the quantum mechanical universe, we need to find the rules that engage observers with quantum mechanical systems"

"Is there a rule that prevents discrete conscious states to be created except by stochastic choice? If so, this would mean the consciousness of an observer cannot exist simultaneously in more than one component of a superposition."

https://forgottenlanguages-full.forgott ... ithms.html
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I found this thread from searching about the site FL, made this account specifically to reply to you.

Would you post the other emails you have? I find the articles very fascinating but the emails even more so.

Are you the sender/recipient? Are you TCpanda or Adrian?

Have you read other email exchanges with “Ayndryl”?

What do you make of the change in tone from purely scientific in early ATS emails and the ones you posted that have a far more ‘mystical’ bent?

Any more info you can add is vastly appreciated.
lake

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Post by lake »

Occam_shaving_cream wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:20 am I found this thread from searching about the site FL, made this account specifically to reply to you.

Would you post the other emails you have? I find the articles very fascinating but the emails even more so.

Are you the sender/recipient? Are you TCpanda or Adrian?

Have you read other email exchanges with “Ayndryl”?

What do you make of the change in tone from purely scientific in early ATS emails and the ones you posted that have a far more ‘mystical’ bent?

Any more info you can add is vastly appreciated.
Hello Occam (fun name mate) .... I have to say sorry :(
I just read the opening post and the 37 emails is wrong.
The 37 refers to the 37 translations I have of individual articles .... my bad.
I have posted the email exchanges I have starting here:
viewtopic.php?p=1822#p1822
and which ends here:
viewtopic.php?p=1838#p1838

So again .... sorry about that.

I posted a link to one of the translations I have here:
viewtopic.php?p=3491#p3491
They are images .... but large and I intended to use them to translate other articles which are in the same constructed languages.

Time is currently an issue .... I still have 70-80 articles to post but am working on something else which I will be until the end of October (which is when I feel shit will start to really happen).

I am not TCpanda or Adrian .... just someone who began to read the FL information and found it fascinating as you did. I like puzzles and puzzles without an image to work from, even better.

Have you emailed FL?
They do respond if the email is respectful and interesting to them .... I think that I sent 5 in total but only received answers to 3.

I consider that they are saying that the current tech path is a deadend and that .... Norea (us) .... should 'walk away from it'.

But I do not know as I haven't collated all the information yet (I hold it all on a personal forum and it is split up into sections so that, eventually, I can bullet point everything stated and then combine the bullets, to give an overall 'image' of the puzzle)
Having the time to do it is currently an issue .... as is posting the remaining articles I have :(
lake

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lake wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:04 pm
Time is currently an issue .... I still have 70-80 articles to post but am working on something else which I will be until the end of October (which is when I feel shit will start to really happen).

Having the time to do it is currently an issue .... as is posting the remaining articles I have :(
Considering the above .... it takes time.

I save all the images (then use postimages.org to host them) and text as they could disappear at any point .... thus it takes time which currently I must put to other endeavors.

I have thought to post the links to the articles which I have not posted here .... I know that some dislike the FL website .... but I cannot help that, I have no time!

So .... read if you wish or even post them if you wish .... your choice .......


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I know that there are vastly more .... but I must concentrate on my current work.
I tried to make sure that I didn't double post articles but I know that I did and so more time was spent searching each new article to see if I had posted it.

I am not leaving .... just I must focus at this point.

Please post away, if you wish : )
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Re: Not saying it's Aliens .... But it's Dimensional Aliens!

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lake!
Great thank you for your great work!

I often look at fl and it serves as a continuation of my thoughts in some way.In addition, it provides a lot of new information. Indeed, it is difficult to find those who are interested in their work,But the topics that fl raises are relevant and serve to answer many questions.Go ahead,because I don't think I'm the only one who understands the specifics of their goals and records.I apologize for my English.
Good luck to you.
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Lake, thank you. I have been away as well and busy. The new posts are very relevant to current events moreso than before i think.
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Re: Not saying it's Aliens .... But it's Dimensional Aliens!

Post by Dianthus »

Like I see it the only aliens besides ourselfs are the one that have died here and have their evolution here in Earth finished and they are now in Spirit (=finer dimensions then us here therefore we can not see them but real good mediums can feel or even hear them but these are not much). Everyone has one guide. That guide is someone you did now in past lives and is on somewhat the same path and so he/she can help when they can bc they cannot interfere bc we have also a free will. It is do the Law of Cause& effect it seems we have no free will for some but you are restricted bc of past deads that must be make good again or men would never got out of here....
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I'm interested in helping.

Awesome! I'm planning on setting up a Discord server soon to possibly have everyone in one place so we can work on this. At one point, we had a discord group of 100 or so from 4chan on it, but time has pretty much made it so theres only a couple active people and no one really interested in digging further. We kindof hit a informational dead end and no one was really into trying to translate the stuff.

You said you've had contact with someone running the site?

We had contact with Ayndryl for a looong time before he stopped replying, I'll see if I can find some screenshots of emails for you. The thing about Ayndryl is we're about 99% sure we doxxed him successfully, so I'm trying to be careful about what I post here.

I found a couple Imgur albums of emails between some members of that original group and Ayndryl, I think I got all the personal information





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Re: Not saying it's Aliens .... But it's Dimensional Aliens!

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mark my words when "alien disclosure" is shown, it is false flag.
they will play every trick in the book so you will look the other way.
find you way to center, center is your self.
people ask your self " what does it it cost to live on earth" then putt seeds in your left hand you can live from, and money/gold/silver in your right hand.
Now go plant them both, and then see Which one will give you something you can eat.
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