Do We Need the Slave Police?

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Do We Need the Slave Police?

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Received This Morning.
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Do We Need the Police?

Dear Classical Wisdom Reader,
Apparently in America the police are deserting their posts in droves.
The public has turned against them, there’s no respect (or funding) for their positions, and the popular refrain is that the whole system, to its very core, is ‘rotten’.

As reported in the Free Press:
A 2021 survey showed that police departments nationwide saw resignations jump by 18 percent—and retirements by 45 percent—over the previous year, with hiring decreasing by five percent. The Los Angeles Police Department has been losing 50 officers a month to retirement, more than the city can replace with recruits. Oakland lost about seven per month in 2021, with the number of officers sinking below the city’s legally mandated minimum.

The list goes on:
Chicago has lost more cops than it has in two decades.
New Orleans is backfilling its shortfall of officers with civilians.
New York is losing more police officers than it has since such figures began being recorded.
Minneapolis and Baltimore have similar stories.

St. Louis—one of the most dangerous cities in America—has lost so many cops that there’s a seven-foot-tall, 10-foot-wide pile of uniforms from outgoing officers at police headquarters called “Mount Exodus.”

Now, why exactly are we talking about American police in these humble pages, which are dedicated to a time period thousands of years ago?
Well, one of the aims here at Classical Wisdom is to illustrate how ancient wisdom can be helpful in our modern era.
Too often folks dismiss the Classics as a subject for dusty libraries and ivory tower classrooms, fit solely for nostalgic out of touch intellectuals... but we history lovers know that’s not the case.
After all, the root causes of many of our contemporary issues have not changed in the millennia... corruption, violence, the abuse of power... plagued the ancients as they do us now. As such, it’s always worthwhile to take the debates of the day to the virtual floor to discuss, ponder and pontificate.

Which brings us to the concept of police.
It is, like most things, steeped in ancient history. Indeed, the name itself derives from the Latin politia, the romanization of the Ancient Greek πολιτεία (politeia) 'citizenship, administration, civil polity'... however, its original manifestations were very different from today.

While in Babylonia, law enforcement tasks were entrusted to individuals with military background, known as paqūdus, who were responsible for investigating petty crimes and carrying out arrests, in ancient Greece, policing was a job taken on by publicly owned slaves.

In Athens, for example, a group of 300 Scythian slaves (the ῥαβδοῦχοι, "rod-bearers") was used to guard public meetings to keep order and for crowd control.
They dealt with criminals, handling prisoners, and making arrests.

However, other aspects associated with modern policing, such as investigating crimes, were left to the citizens themselves.
Meanwhile in Sparta, a secret police force called the krypteia existed to watch the large population of helots, or slaves.

The slave police arrangement did not continue into the Roman empire.

Rather than a dedicated police organization to provide security, the Romans employed the army and other duties related to police work were shared out.
For instance, cities hired local watchmen for extra vigilance and magistrates, such as procurators fiscal and quaestors, investigated crimes.

Victims of crime or their families organized and managed prosecution, as there was no concept of public prosecution at the time.
These informal systems evolved with the size of the city.

Once Rome had grown to almost one million inhabitants under the reign of Augustus, 14 wards were created.
Protected by seven squads of 1,000 men called "vigiles", they acted as firemen and night watchmen.

The vigiles caught thieves and runaway slaves, guarded the baths at night, and more generally, stopped disturbances of the peace.

While the vigiles mostly handled petty crime, violent crime, sedition, and rioting was handled by the Urban Cohorts or the Praetorian Guard.

Augustus then went on to create the cohortes urbanae, who were commanded by the urban prefect and served as a proper police force, in order to counterbalance the enormous power of the Praetorian Guard.

It is clear that there is always a demand for some sort of policing, but how it takes shape differs greatly, especially considering the size of the population, the technology and weapons at their disposal or the specific issues (such as slave revolts) that might take place.

So considering the wide variety in duties, expectations, and formality that encompassed the job of ‘police’ found in the ancient world, we return to our modern question:

Do we need Police?
How can we protect our communities? And what happens when citizens feel they no longer ‘serve and protect’?

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Re: Do We Need the Slave Police?

Post by pierre »

more crucial is when the AI takes over the finances in the same way that the Colossus computer took over the nukes in the 1971 Forbin Project, do we need bankers? .. or people?
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Did somebody just say the Slav police?
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Re: Do We Need the Slave Police?

Post by Felix »

I've always thought of them as bad janitors.

They show up after the fact, and clean the mess up.

Most of the time they make the situation worse.

That and speeding tickets. They sure love to tell other people what to do.

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Re: Do We Need the Slave Police?

Post by Zark »

blaming the Police is an externalised failure to embrace the self

the rise of the Police Officer is symptomatic of a corrupted western society (the police constable is relegated)

the police constable still exists and is vital to law and order in a common law country
reason : their actions in arresting /carrying out a warrant / protecting a member of public is underwritten by the State, just like the Vigiles krypteia.

the disillusion with the Police is a perception failure of self , State, Law and Police

and the Police has lost its own perception.

n.b this is writing from a common law democractic perspective of society
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